Obviously guns have a POI shift but it should be at least be repeatable or make some sense. You are using an out of date browser. You must log in or register to reply here. Caliber. I've been using a TFM for PRS without issues like that, there's definitely something up with the barrel or the rifle in general that's making it do weird things. I was glad to I was able to purchase some 2 years after buying my rifle. 360 rounds down range and I get 1/3 to 1/5 groups at 100. So, the answer is a Tikka in a Bravo. Who makes the barrels for them, or are they built completely inhouse? While its design is influenced by competition rifles, particularly in the stock, it retains the moderate weight (7.3 pounds) and lively handling that a good big-game rifle requires. Maybe not a big deal but thought it was worth mentioning. When they first started they would wrap any barrel. He shot a mule deer and cow elk (370 yds) and our other buddy used it to shoot a pronghorn (310) and a mule deer (570) all with a 130 accubond at 3075 fps. Any thoughts on a good place to start looking for used glass? 02 BOREBRUSH With the bore guide inserted, run a solvent-soaked patch through the barrel, breach to muzzle, removing it at the muzzle. Never had this much of a problem with any of my guns wow i have the same cal . Its not slowly unscrewing is it? 0000012285 00000 n Likely the barrel wasn't stress relieved prior to carbon fiber wrapping so the residual stresses are still there. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. All these cartridges shoot .243-caliber bullets at velocities in the 2700 to 2950 fps range. I called Christensen Arms and received a rude reception. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". Ive contact all three companies involved and to make a long story short . Barrel: Christensen Arms 18" Free-Floated Tensioned Carbon Fiber, Hand Lapped, Bentz Match Chamber, 1:16" RH Twist, 1/2x28 TPI with Smooth Thread Protector. Thanks again. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. Currently borrowing a Tikka Tac A1 till I get my MPR back, its shipping tomorrow. Am I missing something here? Many factors influence accuracy such as ammunition, conditions, shooter ability, etc. That I should have followed their break in. The weight is somewhat average/light for a standard, pencil or light profile barrels. My dealer tells me Christensen had some problems because they sourced out some things, but now things are done in-house except like the Triggertech triggers. That sounds stand up, hope the problem is fixed and I believe it will be. I have a Bergara LRP in 6.5 CM, It's been very good to me, I have about 1500 rounds down the tube now. The carbon-fiber wrapped 26" 416R stainless steel barrel is backed by Christensen Arms with a sub-MOA guarantee. This bolt-action .22 incorporates many of the innovative features found . But the stock is built like a tank, and with a solid rest, the rifle really reaches out there. This is a True/False flag set by the cookie. group very well . My family has had an FFL for years. I keep hearing shooter error, some of it is, no one is perfect. I am by no means bashing, I personally have no experience with them. So I was told by prophet river to sent it for warrenty work at corlane sports in British Columbia , so here I sit, its October 21 still no gun. The first 3 groups are good accuracy minus the flyers which is probably shooter error, the 3rd group has a POI shift which is probably also shooter error from not being consistent behind the gun. It has a three-lug action that runs smoothly in the receiver, a good trigger, and a stock fashioned in the classic American style. The Pro Hunter is a near-perfect expression of the modern long-range hunting rifle. You need a good control first. The cookie stores information anonymously and assigns a randomly generated number to recognize unique visitors. Only time will tell if its the barrel or not, so I'm looking forward to seeing what happens when another shooter tries it. I bought a new 28 Nosler in March and the barrel alignment was so bad i couldnt even zero my scope (Tangent Theta 3x15, so not a junker) at 100 yards with its available elevation OR windage. In the end, I got what I needed, but I wouldnt say it was an enjoyable process.. What are the thread measurements for your barrels? Unopened or handled. ~!m"2ie )a+BPE They seem willing to help, but are not the sharpest tools in the shed. Can't get the gun to shoot groups.At 50 yards I get a 1 inch group. Most chamberings use a 22-inch, free-floated barrel (also potentially a 20", 24" or 26" barrel length depending on the caliber) that's button rifled. I lost count of how many carbon barreled CA rifles I have set up. Very Pleased !!!! The first day at the range I shot 1/2 and under at 100, with FACTORY 180 gr accubonds and 180 gr BT. It is magnificent and dead on! I sent it back for repair under warranty. Literally the last shots fired. Thanks for any info. . I would buy another. Our TFM and Summit TI rifles are guaranteed to shoot MOA or better in most calibers. But they have all shot really well so take that as you will. The front end of the barrel was ceracoated, the shade doesnt quite match. Thats why Christensen Arms builds an exceptionally lightweight. I had the action accurized, timmey trigger and brake. (excepting firearms, which must ship to FFL). call john mogle . I wish the rifle would have come with an extra shim out of the box though. Around Christmas, I bought an MPR in .300 Win Mag with the 26 inch carbon fiber barrel. Bolt was stiff and needed a rubber hammer to open after firing. I didnt know you could buy CA barrels. Many of you have asked how is the Christensen doing. The Ranger 22 comes with a zero m.o.a. Weight is not a deal breaker for me. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. I have definitely heard some horror stories about Christensen Arms, however the stories I have heard of were more related to chambering issues. The communications and quick responses to my questions from Jeff, Kystren and Michelle made the purchase of of my rifle a great experience. . It is updated every time data is sent to Google Analytics. So unless proven otherwise I'll stick with residual stress as the cause. .300 Ultra Mag., reloads. Yay. You are using an out of date browser. The best I own.The products are exactly what they say they are. They fit perfectly. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. Which I was told by Christensen that this weapon is a good choice for PRS so I'd assume it should hold up to consecutive rounds it got shipped off yesterday so we'll see. I bought a picatinny rail like the one on my new Ranger, because I need to make some modifications to accommodate a scope. 0000002423 00000 n Do I need to break in my barrel? He is a very experienced shooter/reloader with many miles under his belt. He also did mention he had to back off like 4 grain powder due to bolt opening hard on his Christensen vs his rem 700 in 300 rum with same load. I'm also shooting from a relatively uncomfortable patch of ground. Once clear, fire 2 three-shot groups. when your wrapping carbon fibre with a little skinny barrel underneith is fine with normal magnums and nonmagnums, the problem with the 300 ultra is it heats up the barrel too much because the steel is so thin and will actually burn the barrel out in around 200 rounds, now that is just what I read from a few people and I can't remember on which I usually shoot around MOA from this location. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/source-for-bergara-extractor.6914434/, seriously, there wasn't even 1/8" of clearance, One Piece vs Two Piece (Removable Forend) Chassis. He advised it should be able to keep a decent group with 20 rounds. A few days later, I went into The Armories in Winter Garden Florida and purchased a Christensen Arms rifle. Weve seen a number of tactical/hunter hybrids recently, but the B-14 HMR really nailed the concept. Have any of you tried the short chamber offerings in these barrels? My overall was longer then my 3.75 mag. Full disclosure in case my previous comments came off as me advocating for a Christensen Arms over a Bergara because I stand to benefit from it, I no longer work for a Christensen dealer and have no skin in the game (nor could I help OP score any kind of deal on one). JavaScript is disabled. Like truly thought something was broken. If you are experiencing accuracy . 0000057435 00000 n Was called back in a very timely manner and the question was answered by staff, who by the way, had mounted the bipod on the very rifle I had. accurate firearm with cutting-edge, aerospace technology thats not You are using an out of date browser. So whats next? The gun shoots great for me. Wv[9k.Ji#2AlTJ-w]cs_Z vOjEA6XDNJCn,SS@1^m,7VSWO0&e'M,,m[k\nIDq${G%/kW= b*KBwe`, l *7f?2Kw65l[Nzf! I appreciate all the factual based information from everyone. The only x other issue I had was I got the manual for a MPR rifle instead of the ELR. It's not recoil or anything for me, it's just general compatibility of attachments since I know a bunch of people make items like Arca rails for XLR chassis but hadn't honestly even heard of Mega Orias prior to looking up more details on the Bergara. I dont think that Christiansen carbon barrels are Proof. 691328237713. It makes the toughest targets seem like chip shots. I had never "shot" a Christensen Arms gun, nor did I know anything about them. Last time I talked to him he wasnt getting the results he was hoping for. This list is comprised of great riflesshooters all. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Will update sometime next week when I get to the range. when your wrapping carbon fibre with a little skinny barrel underneith is fine with normal magnums and nonmagnums, the problem with the 300 ultra is it heats up the barrel too much because the steel is so thin and will actually burn the barrel out in around 200 rounds, now that is just what I read from a few people and I can't remember on which site. Installed by Google Analytics, _gid cookie stores information on how visitors use a website, while also creating an analytics report of the website's performance. When I walked the rep through my barn sized groupings and insane wandering zero, the CA representative was entirely dismissive and LAUGHED saying "well yeah this happens to all guns when they heat up". Turnaround time was 3 weeks. The guy on the other end started off by condescendingly asking if I hadn't followed their break in. i own two my custom one is the best rifle i own!!! I cannot speak on behalf of them. Weve had countless ca rifles. I have called but can never get a person to talk to. . You literally gave us NOTHING to go off of. Manufacturer: Christensen Model: Ranger 22 . I have also ordered probably six 30 cal carbon blanks, a few 6.5's, and a 223 along with a few 338's. Loved the rifle.Broke the handle off the bolt cocking it .Al's sent the gun into Christensen Arms, and told me the turn around time was usually one to three weeks .It has been over six weeks and have no gun yet. Barrel is in excellent condition with good bore and rifling. 01 CLEAR BORE First make sure that the barrel is clean and free of any oil or solvents from the manufacturing process. After talking for 10 minutes the rep begrudgingly offered me to send in my rifle under warranty but I was so pissed I said I'd call him back if/when I decide to do so. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. %PDF-1.5 % Hell, my 18" SPR ar15 within an inch all day prone with bag and bipod. #r5&vtRN,-}@tN8MQ/lg$vza~E`7J}?7Ul6v97p[4+M2 .c> g`k9ES3pA;Gl`zDmqPe#(I*ea,ZJQf#B . The cookie is set by MailChimp to record which page the user first visited. 550 N. Cemetery Rd. If so I really have to lean towards it being the shooter warming up plus the shitty grip. These cookies ensure basic functionalities and security features of the website, anonymously. I mounted the Spuhr and Razor using manufacture specs, using rosin on the interior of the rings and triple checking all torque readings. Would not hesitate to buy one. I'm a NRA instructor and have shot quite a few rifles. As youll see, some are made for competition, and some are made for hunting. Verification can help ensure real people write reviews about real companies. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. It is absolutely off the charts. The action is very very nice to cycle. Would I normally shoot 20 rounds of anything back to back like that? My experience with Christensen CS has not been impressive. 0000018344 00000 n We use dedicated people and clever technology to safeguard our platform. I can shoot a Tac A1 half to 3/4 moa from a bag and atlas. Snow is Shooting Editor of Outdoor Life, where he oversees the publications firearms and shooting coverage. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Every one should own at least one Christensen rifle. Weighs in at about 14 lbs with a G2 Razor 4.5-27, and Atlas CAL bipod if that helps you any. Christensen Arms Carbon Tension Barrel is made from a 416R button rifled, lapped barrel blank. Shoot at 100y? They seem more than willing to help me out. reloads are rem brass fed primers 215m retumbo 92.0 gr berger 210 vlds. good luck with yours. Thank you so much for this .. exactly what I was looking for .. I'm definitely a fan of the XLR over the Mega Orias chassis, even though it's just an Element chassis, but then again I also shoot an XLR on my own match rifle currently so I know I'm slightly biased. I forwent any break in as its (this will become relevant later) and began attempting to zero my rifle. The Mesa FFT is a great solution for backcountry hunting. Bryan Litz from AB did some extreme testing of carbon barrels for heat related issues and CA was the winner.