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Look it up. NOTE: This is not a comprehensive argument for changing the alcohol policy at Cedarville and more articles will likely be posted in relation to this subject to review Biblical principles in depth. I am currently attending Liberty, and the rules are so laid back at least half the student body goes out late night and weekends gets messed up, and gets it with someone, theres plenty of ways around the rules, school is pretty fake. I know Id want someone to visit me. Clothing should not have slogans that are inconsistent with University values. go to freethoughtpedia and look up PCC and read the review of a former student. degree, but never got it. Stay up the great paintings! If anything, its pushing them further away because they feel even more separated from God. when they prohibit homosexuality while prohibiting interaction with the opposite sex. As part of this I had to see the Dean of Men and he told me of a couple who rubbed against each other until bad things happened apparently he was expecting me to admit the same (4) One time in a private setting in a social area for couples to spend time she sat on my lap we were told by a person representing the college this was inappropriate behavior; (5) chapel attendance was required and attendance taken and I believe 2 misses meant disciplinary action (6) guys and girls were not allowed to swim together although I believe this has changed (7) Very little help was provided if you needed help in academics, although one of the college missions is to provide help to those in KY who had inferior high school experiences (6) It was extremely rule oriented it was about following the rules and not about development and transformation as a responsible ethical who loved God and Christ. Lets see,,, marry a girl from a christian college who has conducted herself appropriately, has good manners, no baggage, no std`s, is modest and will make a good wife and mother. I would strongly caution you to know he whom you so boldly challenge, and if you charge a holy God with unrighteousness, take note that it shall be accounted of in the day of your calamity. Hide/Show Additional Information For Notre Dame OH - February 24, 2023. this is what I think of those colleges They can go fuck a buffalo for all I care how dare they dictate your life. This is taken from the oru web site . But its greatly changed now. However, this article doesnt actually say that these schools are bad just that they are very strict, which they are. How could she possibly have had the time to worry about not being able to see a R rated movie or go clubbing. Obviously, dishonest or disruptive remains heavily discouraged as it does even in public schools. However, while I appreciate the desire to have a biblically based view on alcohol, I do believe this article misses the heart behind the rule of abstaining from alcohol while being a student at Cedarville. As with many Christian colleges and universities, Liberty extends its behavioral guidelines to students who live off campus as well as on. You arent allowed to have your own opinions about anything and creativity and individuality is totally stifled. Neither freshmen nor sophomores are permitted to drive cars to work, either. They do not require church service, but Convocations on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays are compulsory for the entire student body. they are legal. I believe the answer lies with how students (like me) were raised. Save for the dress code and media violations, most of these infractions can lead to disciplinary actions or even outright dismissal from the school. -Drinking, also duh, they just actually monitor it here. If Jesus were alive, why wouldnt he want people to volunteer in nursing homes? The bible is the guideline to these rules. Asbury College/University. What if that rule is not to be a legalistic, archaic kill-joy? The professors are very intentional so that studying the bible isn't just for academia, but . Makeup really? The only Biblical justification provided in the handbook is that it is listed as a disputable matter by Paul, which we will get into later. Employment must not mainly involve the sale of alcohol (so no bars or liquor stores), anything even remotely sexual, gambling, or anything un-Christian. Sports is taken seriously and we do very well in the Div One level.Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow etcthese are outstanding Christian athletes/men and went to secular schoolsyou dont have to be christian and goto to a christian college to stay christian.some students like the positive atmosphere and some just like the locationeveryone has their own preference. Probably just pray around the clock and go to church (:::sarcasm face::: so fun!!! For these students, drinking is not only unwise, it is also illegal. AND, IF I had not experienced Gods love, Why doesnt she try to show me instead of disipline me when I did nothing wrong!!!!!! Look at history. Mixed groups of males and females must agree to confer in the presence of a chaperone. and I would rather put up with some questionably strict rules if that meant that They love to give demerits there and everyone is encouraged to be a snitch. Students at these schools are missing out. God created sex. I dont even go to church anywhere around campus. I agree that drinking alcohol responsibly is not a sin and there should be no shame in that. The campus feels more like a prison than a college. So whats wrong with what they are doing. In addition, all freshmen with jobs must consent to being chaperoned by a prayer captain or one of their assistants or an upperclassman while working. If you want to have a Christian school, make it conform to Biblical principles as much as possible. Dry Town: Why Cedarville Township exists as one of only hundreds of dry towns in the U.S. I walked away 15 years ago and still have not come back but there were many factors involved. Alcohol is held up as equally detrimental as illegal substances regardless of whether or not a student partakes responsibly and remains at or above the drinking age and the University does not discriminate on whether or not consumption or possession takes place on- or off-campus, either. [emailprotected]. Is there something wrong here? Some are grounds for immediate expulsion, while others build up over time before a student can be dismissed. Many who attend the strictest places were either home-schooled or went to hard-line fundy christian schools and churches their whole life. However, no mention is made of men wearing very short shorts or tank tops that expose most of their upper body. They rally behind the 10 Commandments, but when asked about their own practices, they quickly throw up the New Testament. Folk dancing? There are so many problems with this statement. Comments? -Engaging in or Supporting Homosexuality, this one is tricky. I attended Asbury for four years, the handbook is terribly written, but the rules are not as strict as they are presented here. The rule is to err on the side of caution in wisdom. Openly homosexual students are allowed to attend classes, but they must commit themselves to the same standards of staunch chastity as their heterosexual peers. Thanks for that Just food for thought. Ten. However was shocked at the unchristian like behavior these christains held. Yes, the limitations on personal freedoms were sometimes onerous, but the tradeoffs, IMO, make the typical American college experience pale in comparison. All of you commenting on this comment box are complete fools have you not forgotten what country you live in its the United States people. Um, we dance at ORU. To try to fix me, I was taken to a church, beat, water thrown on me, dragged to a stage and forced to confess things Id never done. The students realize that they will be under strict rule. I went to Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles and the school is laid back we can have alcohol on campus go to dance clubs if we want to,so I say this GO FUCK yourself you religious nuts, I attended Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles They dont have strict rules lie BJU which I think is a little extreme If I want to go to Dance Clubs or a bars I will Let them try to stop me because I will Tell to where to go and how to get there. Just because something is legal, does not make it right, nor does it protect society. Also, the writer makes it sound as if the faculty of these schools were placing the students under arbitrary rules that go beyond reason. Alcohol use is not repeatedly rebuked in scripture. The main thing I learned from my year there was how to be sneaky. Alcohol makes a person less alert and diminishes self-control. Most schools understandably want their students to stay away from breaking the law or acting inconsiderately towards others but Ozark Christian College also places tight regulations on legal activities as well. I know people are given the choice/make the decision to attend these schools, but they just sound so old-fashioned and boring. If the truth is found in the Bible, abide in it, and depart not from it. IT IS WRONG. I went to Asbury college and for a Christian college I have never had such a bad taste in my mouth for a group of people. And students coloring their hair is definitely not banned.just unnatural colors are like a student couldnt dye their hair green for instance. The decision to use alcohol and tobacco kills nearly 500,000 Americans a year, the porn industry destroys millions, and how many die from abortion. However, his ultimate conclusion is that Christians must make decisions based on whether they will be further sanctified. Tara, Im sorry to hear you had such a negative experience at Asbury. 3:34). There is no doubt in my mind that students who wish to drink will find a way to do so, just like students who struggle with sexual temptation will find a way to engage in such activities if that is truly the desire of their hearts. Im bruised by the experience yet my wife was forever changed. I could go on, but. L, 8-10. Geez. they as adults need freedom to make own choices. Thats whats up. Its your belief. And its true men may not wear makeup. As one of the top Christian colleges in the Midwest, Cedarville University attracts 5,082 undergraduate , graduate, and dual enrolled high school students to more than 175 areas of study. An act isnt good because God does it a being can only be God if it only does good acts. Allowing dancing at any school-related function on or off campus is strictly prohibited, though students are allowed to bust a few chaste, pre-approved moves at weddings, military balls, graduation exercises, church, and family occasions provided they refrain from attending clubs, bars, or parties that allegedly lead to temptation no matter what. Your paragraph on Oral Roberts University is inaccurate. Official MBA partner of The Economist. The point is, in my opinion, someone needs to establish guidelines for our youth.. It is based on a set of core values and the Cedarville Covenant which shape each students experience at Cedarville University. All appeals for Involuntary AdministrativeWithdrawal should be addressed to the Vice President for Student Life and Christian Ministries within 48 hours of the decision. I would love to have continued healthy dialogue about issues such as these, but in person. An aquiantance who attended Bob Jones U told me that she was forced to accept an offer to go on a date with a guy she wasnt interested in because by not doing so she might miss the opportunity to meet the future mate God intended for her. my child would be at a place which is much safer and God-honoring. However, responsible use is not sinful, which is our primary point in this article. Political or social demonstrations including harmless picketing are completely banned on campus, and the University heavily discourages participating in any held off-campus as well. The caller said the victim was on the ground bleeding . And finally he would allow an environment that would dishonor the name of Christ. He let a known to be unclean woman wash his feet with perfume. I am glad that the author is not in charge of a Christian college because I was on full scholarship (or would have never atteneded the school),and I was aware of all these policies and followed them. Hey Amos, youve got a very urgent meeting with Dr. Wood tomorrow. Id go ahead and start packing. They have separated beaches for the men and women. What rules are they not so strict on? Of course, Jesus advocated The Commandments, not hip, redesigned for 2012, laws. Cedarville police were called to the Stevens Student Center Tuesday morning after a 911 caller reported that a male student had been stabbed. As we know from history, prohibition massively failed. Especially for women it was very restrictive. While some rules are debatable, yet this writer seems to think Students are expected to be honest and truthful in all forms of communication (verbal or written). Were MADE in Gods image, and so the things we feel and do were felt by God first! Participating in dance that is sexually provocative, occurs in unhealthy environments, or accompanies lyrics that do not reflect a pure and godly lifestyle is prohibited. So go ahead and get offended on the internet because someone you dont even know wrote down the rules of strict colleges and made snarky comments about them. They do not prepare you for the real world unless you want to work at and be totally immersed in a strict, judgmental and very dogmatic church for your whole life. God tried to strike me with lightning for being there but he missed.lol jk The rigor is tough and the women are drop dead gorgeousbut bottom line, they are human and live life very similar to everyone else, they just do it in a bit of a different way. The specific guidelines included below are shaped by biblical principles, community preferences, and cultural expectations in terms of propriety and professionalism. I wonder if its the product of a fundamentalist Christian school (mine was formed at Catholic schools and cheering the murder of alleged gay people was never on the syllabus). All women are required to keep their skirts at knee-length or longer and receive no piercings beyond one in the earlobe. Theyre not going to hunt you down or anything. Sex is frequent, furious, and freaky. In conclusion, I dont think that students are better off if they go to these schools, and I would not encourage anyone to do so. They try to teach young adults how to dress in the business world when I went. Some of the dating offenses include displays of affection beyond hand-holding both on- and off-campus, seeing one another in swimming or sunbathing attire, not exiting a car at the same time immediately upon turning off the engine, being caught alone together while at school, and going on single dates while a freshman. Wow, the writer of this article is very intolerant. Why all the restrictions regarding dancing? Are they genuinely pushing their students towards the path of Christ? No TEA???? I transferred to PCC my sophomore year and had a great floor leader. It will introduce you to our Cedarville Covenant and Community Guidelines, and it will include advice that will help you maximize your success as a university student. I graduated from ORU, great school! Youre a different kind of stupid. -Underage gambling is also against the law (and also gives into the sin of greed) EAST LANSING, Mich. (AP) The 43-year-old gunman who killed three students and wounded five others at Michigan State University had no apparent connection to the campus, police said Tuesday as they searched for a motive for shootings that terrified the community for hours.. Investigators were sorting out why Anthony McRae fired inside an academic building and the student union just before 8 . At BJU I just couldnt get any action as the boys are all homosexual or want to be. Regardless of popular opinion, political correctness, or the ideas of major theologians, truth is always truth. -Supporting or practicing religious beliefs in line with occult (This is not entirely true. Raffles are not even allowed as fundraiser due to their association with gambling, which is also banned. I have visited Pensacola Christian College many times and am planning to go there this fall. According to a blog post made last November by the school president Dr. Thomas White, and referring to Philippians 4:8 (which honors "whatever is pure"), Cedarville will soon institute a new. 2A) A proper reading of the Sodom story shows that the sin that was committed was inhospitality to strangers Jesus also sites Sodom in this context, 2B) Lots daughters are offered up to the strangers is this an example of morality? Even if this situation only befalls a small proportion of the students who attend, it is bad enough that it is a significant threat. I attended Asbury for my first 2 years of college and met my wife there. This, unfortunately is a perk of many religious institutions. By the time we were ready to graduate and go to college, that important decision, like most others, had either already been made for us or pushed so strongly onto us that we felt there were no other options. Stephen, I think the writers point about The Passion of the Christ is that we werent supposed to watch any R-rated movies, yet we were heavily encouraged to watch The Passion of the Christ. Academically, it was quite decent, and some professors were very open-minded. Extremely vulgar!!! It might be time for a look at the past before blaming a school for your wifes lack of faith Just saying. We married after she graduated. I do not see why people judge these schools so harshly as a non-christian I still think that these colleges are not wrong. Yet, a fraction of that die from guns. Keep up the good work! Demanding a radical commitment to Jesus Christ of all students involves not only the usual abstinence from illegal substances and behaving courteously, but a number of other legal but forbidden or discouraged behaviors frowned upon by the religious right as well. Oh, Im sorry, you must know so much more than the current students and those who have graduated and are leading great lives. As one of the underground liberal minority at the college, I disagreed with almost all the guidelines. So if the rules dont work for you, dont go there. Admissions is fairly competitive as the Cedarville acceptance rate is 59%. Lets hope your RA didnt pursue a career in counseling. God created the creativity within human beings. On a related note, outright banning things often just makes them more appealing. Thankfully, Christian colleges provide a better environment than secular campuses. Woah this blog is great i really like reading your posts. Third, many of these rules ban things that arent dangerous (eg dancing, scary or violent movies, and sex so long as the people involved know what they are doing and all proper precautions are used) and that are a lot of fun. Sex that is forbidden and secretive just makes it all the more exciting. Cedarville would be served well to move on from archaic legalistic principles of the past towards being an example of grace and freedom in Christ. These places really need to get it together, damn. Proverbs 29:22 may be a helpful verse in this situation. The second problem is that Cedarville seems oblivious to the fact that the same thing has happened at Cedarville. A lot of the comments here seem to be objecting to what the author said by defending these schools. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Its similarly interesting how people choose which laws & pieces of the Bible they will follow. Cedarville's first rule is undoubtedly pointed at women. . I go to Oral Roberts University. I am not a follower of Christianity nor do I have a problem with that, but these establishments are making the entire religion look crazed and judgmental Just sayin. That rule ONLY applies to publicly shown movies. Recap. You are loved. Shoes should be worn in academic buildings, chapel, and the dining hall at all times. I was able to find good information from your blog posts.|, http://www.fyple.ca/company/truly-organic-foods-szz2aa/, Thanks for every other informative site. I attended Liberty from 99-01 and it was great. She did meet some students who were unhappy with Asbury for various reasons, like any students at any college. But God does not write off enjoying anything unless it is harmful to our bodies or hurts others, neither of which are true about alcohol. its not mans law they are concerned with, its, you know, His law.. Ballroom dancing? Cedarvilles policy on alcohol is simply another notch in the post of treating students like children rather than adults. Because some might say that the strict rules only serve to lead people away. To offer a different perspective, I graduated from Asbury in the 90s, lived by the rules, and benefited from being part of a voluntary community that generally did the samenot out of fear or self-righteousness, but because of the high value they placed on faith and community. Be offended but remember that nobody cares youre offended. As discussed in the article on Cedarville's alcohol rules, when you make something illegal, it doesn't stop people who want to do it. The only wont allow it if you practice satanism (for obvious reasons) or anything with sacrificing, pretty much.) I read the qualifications for these schools and got to thinking about it seriously. 2:1317; 1 Pet. You understand, a lot of people are hunting round for this information, you could help them greatly. More information on the personal care attendant policy and other disability accommodations is available at cedarville.edu/disabilities . The articles goal is to make you think some of these colleges are creating robots and the students walk around with bibles in one arm and a notebook in the other. As Paul said, Be not drunk with wine, but we filled with the holy spirit. Commuter students cannot cohabitate with significant others or any peers of the opposite sex, either, and anyone hoping to get married before the age of 21 is highly encouraged to seek counseling and receive parental permission. As for the dress code, it sounds old fashioned and sexist. No one is being coerced into paying thousands of dollars to go if they dont want to. My marriage has lasted almost 11 years so far, I have no illegitimate children and I have never been an embarrassment to my husband. There are as many answers as there are people to consider the questions, because the world exists in shades of grey.