It has simply been repeated over and over again, without proof, and duplicated on a number of websites. America. The Ms. , we thought, would signal a bit of ironic distance from the broad, ingenu- ous affection contained in Miss America. There was a real Colonel Carrigan, and he was a POW in Vietnam. . Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. Free subscription>>, Please consider a donation to help us keep this American treasure alive. Especially considering that the Republican Party has obviously now been captured by the same forces (the 'Illuminati', hehehe). There's nothing like a historian 'cherry-picking' his citations or only presenting a partial 'truth' from his source. She has to be a murderess too. "There's no disputing that Jane Fonda toured North Vietnam, propagandized on behalf of the communists, and participated in an orchestrated "press conference" with American POWs in 1972. If you must know, my original draft did make reference to the one true story that you mentioned. To license content, please contact licenses [at] americanheritage.com. Fonda consorted with the enemy and made propaganda broadcasts on their behalf. North Vietnam, 1972,: Jane Fonda is in the midst of her visit when an N.V.A. Del. http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399b.htm. What followed was a long-lasting wave of criticism and international outrage that earned Fonda the nickname " Copyright 1949-2022 American Heritage Publishing Co. All Rights Reserved. Support with a donation>>. Thats all the ground troops were going home. I make it a habit not to intervene as an intern. JANE FONDA: It was a terrible mistake. Colonel, Michelle Malkin (search) actually discovered other quotes that she had said. Fonda moves down the line, greeting each man with encouragements like Arent you ashamed you killed babies? as she shakes his hand. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. To begin with, the title is deliberately misleading: his real point has nothing to do with Jane Fonda. The "New World Order" of the capitalists and the communists is not "Jewish", sir. If I was Vietnamese, I probably would have tried to do the same thing, you know, but I should not have gone. Content and Programming Copyright 2005 Fox News Network, L.L.C. We have no right to bomb military targets in Vietnam. The 85-year-old Fonda has had a lengthy career as a Hollywood icon that includes her current turn in the film 80 For Brady, an equally long stint as an outspoken liberal, a fitness craze that began in the infancy of home video, and much more. And by the way, did our government lie to us during Vietnam? Its going to look like I was trying to shoot down U.S. planes! Her suit was later settled for a reported $20 million. They called it FTA, which they said stood for Free the Army, but it was also a not-so-subtle nod to the expression f the Army.. NORTH (on camera): What did the guys in your squad say about this? ET! I mean, that's like the bank robber saying, "I'm sorry I got caught.". He was Americas most famous pediatrician. Meanwhile the mass media suddenly reversed its pro-war policy: denying our beleaguered troops moral support from home. I dug in my heels. She was photographed sitting on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun on a 1972 visit to Hanoi, during which she gained the nickname "Hanoi Jane". MacArthur complained that his conduct of the war was compromised by spies within the U.S. government: "The enemy receives my (Pentagon) directives before I do". She still does not know what she did wrong. If I was used, I allowed it to happen. "CHINA: Following WWII, Mao Tse-Tung, financed by the international banks, led his Chinese communists in an armed conflict against nationalist China under Generalissimo Chiang Kai-Shek, America's ally against Japan. And heres Cat Ballou, the beautiful daughter of Young Abe Lincoln, of Mister Roberts, beaming down from a machine designed to kill them. Laurie Dhue was a familiar presence on Fox in the early 2000s but left the network in 2008. re: Jane Fonda visiting BR this weekend Posted on 3/3/23 at 9:43 am to Chipand2Putts. CHRIS WALLACE: Who the people in the Nixon administration? Its folklore, but folklore of a curiously evolved sort. But when you know why you did something, and youre willing to admit the mistakes that you made, but stand up for the things that you did that that mattered? I am trying to show up now.. Fondas wide-ranging response went from apologetic to defiant and everywhere in between: CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. WebIn July of 1972 Jane Fonda went to Hanoi, North Vietnam, for a two-week tour of the country. By denying their mistreatment or not investigating their treatment,in an effort to sway public opinion to her own perceived vision of the national interest, she did harm to her countrymen in captivity. Quite the contrary. His replacement, General Ridgway, said after the war: "The reason we didn't win is because I was under orders not to win". Daughter of legendary Henry Fonda, actress, and activist was one of the most outspoken people against the Vietnam War at the age of 34. http://www.truthminers.com/truth/hanoi_jane.htm; Biden Should Remove Cuba from List of State Sponsors of Terrorism, Descendants of Slaveholder Donor Denounce Law School Name Change, How Social Media and Community Schools Could Fill in Gaps Teaching Black History, American Girl Dolls Declare the 1990s Ancient History, Review: DeSantis's Book is a Campaign Tome Written by ChatGPT, Reconsidering Phillis Wheatley's Place in the Revolutionary Era, Philosopher Lewis Gordon's Impact on Black Jewish History, Quintard Taylor's Black Past Project Fights Erasure of History, Review: The Unfinished Business of "Double V", One Reason to Confirm National Archivist Fast? Richard Morgan, Over the years, as Fonda reinvented herself as a fitness maven and again a movie star, she apologized many times for the antiaircraft gunphoto. Ramsey Clark went to Hanoi during the war. Why are people more angry at Jane Fonda that they are against, say, Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon, the people really responsible? Those words were written by Michael Benge, a civilian advisor captured by the Viet Cong in 1968 and held as a POW for 5 years. I mean again, I'm not trying to be pedantic about it, but an apology is, "I'm sorry for what I said. Whether youre a lifelong resident of D.C. or you just moved here, weve got you covered. And four months later, the bombing stopped of the dikes. Kelly attacked Fondas Vietnam War history to defend questions about plastic surgery. Legal Statement. Aristide was an ENEMY of Communism, hence his downfall. Truman warned Chiang to integrate communists into China's nationalist government or American aid would be withdrawn. Fox News has enhanced the careers of numerous women who have served as hosts. In another she was looking into the North Vietnamese press reported and Fonda later confirmed that she made several radio announcements over the Voice of Vietnam radio to implore U.S. pilots to stop the bombings. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. No article of ours gets hundreds of letters, but this one did, very few of them friendly. Kelly responded with a cannon by bringing up the time Fonda posed on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun. All rights reserved. A new HBO documentary on Fondas life, Jane Fonda in Five Acts, explores the fallout for the actress, who is now 80. She and actor Donald Sutherland started an anti-USO troupe to counter Bob Hopes famous shows for the troops. During the visit she posed for several pictures. February 25, 2023 / Jack Marshall. I dont think they know, Fonda said in a news conference when she returned home. Megyn Kelly lit into Jane Fonda on Monday, highlighting the behavior that earned the actress the nickname Hanoi Jane while defending the time last fall when she questioned Fonda about plastic surgery. [3] And she referred to the POW's as hypocrites and liars.[4]. As Jane Fonda promotes her new film, "Monster-in-Law", its up to all of us to let our children know about the specific activities she undertook during the Vietnam War. The "advisors" assisted inept South Vietnamese in their ongoing war against the North Vietnamese, who also happened to be communists. Joining us now is the host of "War Stories," who fought in Vietnam, Colonel Oliver North is with us. Which is precisely why U.S. liberals so vehemently protested U.S. involvement - and that is the only reason - we were destroying their comrades the communists. NORTH: The real story about Vietnam. wars the intention of which is not to win but to bleed) is quite plausible. She also spoke about her infamous protests. She sided with the Viet Cong as revolutionary liberators. And she travelled to Hanoi at a time when North Vietnamese soldiers were killing Americans. Her visit actually took place in 1972. Perhaps most dramatically, in March 1973, the Maryland state legislature held a hearing to have Fonda and her films barred from the state. Liberals in America's streets "protested" our victories and exulted in our defeats - thus, in patriots' eyes, giving the war a raison d'etre. You will not be surprised to hear that I have bowdlerised the above considerably, removing racial designators and course expressions of various sorts. Now, I leave it NORTH: Well, yes, as a matter of fact I think she is. Jane Fonda and the Vietnam War. After we published Peter Braunsteins article on Jane Fonda in our July/August issue, perhaps 60 people sent me this story. Due to actions and images some people consider unpatriotic or treasonous, she earned Fonda wasnt deterred. I am assured it will be taken care of. Youre gonna come through it, okay. Fonda addresses the media in December 1972 to protest U.S. military involvement in the Vietnam War. No article of ours gets hundreds of letters, but this one did, very few of them friendly. It wasnt firing at the time, and Fonda said in 2011 she hardly even thought about where I was sitting and that it is possible that it was a set up, that the Vietnamese I was not the kind of mother that I wished I had been to my children. Please, you cant let them be published. They landed two months later on 7 May with the 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines. Even so, the main focus of my essay was whether Jane Fonda participated in war crimes, not whether she was morally culpable for her part as an apologist for the mistreatment of POW's (she was). He hadnt liked the story but at least was willing to discuss it. She said: I have very few regrets. It sounds loony until you actually think about it - and the general thesis of "no-win wars" (i.e. You know, we can we can scare her, and boy did they try? 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CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. "Flashpoint Vietnam," the real story about the road to the war. In 1972, the Academy Award-winning actress and activist traveled to North Vietnam and was photographed laughing and clapping along with Vietnamese soldiers. I hardly even think about where I am sitting. Some lawmakers calledher actions treason. They hadnt been able to vote on the virtues of the conflict, and they found themselves in mortal peril in the midst of an ugly, painful ordeal that a lot of vocal people back home thought was a criminal enterprise. MacArthur was denied his request to attack enemy forces massing across the Yalu border in preparation for attack. This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," April 6, 2005, that has been edited for clarity. It meant re-taking the same bloody ground over and over again. Thus, Europe, Russia, China, Korea, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Thailand, Japan, the Middle East were turned into killing grounds, and their existing governments destroyed. Respected online resources such as Snopes, Truth Miners, and Urban Legends have all cited key persons in the infamous email as having refuted its claims. No one with half a brain took Jane Fonda seriously then, or for that matter, now. She so symbolized the divided nation, hawks arrayed against her and doves siding with her, that she became a personal target, most recently with allegations about personal involvement in the mistreatment of POWs. Though Fonda has been an activist throughout her life, the only other time she has spent the night in jail was in 1970, when she was 32, on a speaking tour protesting the Vietnam War. Market data provided by Factset. Heres how we saw the article we ran: It is a survey of the singular career of a woman who both drove and was driven by many of the largest social concerns of her era, and who came to embody some of them. Many Americans disapproved of Fondas comments Screw you. It all has nothing to do with where I am sitting. Pleasant Michigan, where Mary Hersberger (Capital University) and Jerry Kembcke (Holy Cross College) both gave papers on Fonda. Hanoi Jane told 60 Minutes that photos snapped while she sat on an enemy aircraft gun was a betrayal and the largest lapse of judgment I can imagine. Though she did say, meeting the locals, other artists, and intellectuals were well worth it. And, as she does, each POW palms her a scrap of paper with his Social Security number written on it. I did not know then. quote: Fonda was a political activist in the counterculture era during the Vietnam War. COLMES: Many of us forgive many of us forgive George W. Bush (search) for being young and irresponsible, and maybe we can also forgive Jane Fonda. But now, very quickly, treason is the only crime defined in our Constitution. Again and again against incredible odds, and at great cost in American casualties, U.S. forces stopped the enemy; but were prevented by President Truman from administering the coup de grace. And heres Cat Ballou, the beautiful daughter of Young Abe Lincoln, of Mister Roberts, beaming down from a machine designed to kill them. Heres the picture that was used to shut shut down American plants, critics, and there were millions of them, called you a Hanoi Jane and said you were a traitor. Whereupon Truman dismissed MacArthur for insubordination. NORTH: Irrefutable for the three things she did, and I defined for you the rule, the actual constitutional language defining treason. And you know, maybe I was set up but I was an adult, its Im gonna take responsibility for it. GRUMMETT: Don't worry about it, you know? But he never met Jane Fonda, and he has no idea how the maddening tale attached itself to him. And that we probably couldnt win it not because they werent a fabulous soldiers. One showed her applauding North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gunners. I stand by the article as it was written. She was a symbol of a divided nation. They realized that the war was wrong, that we werent wanted there. Thats all the ground troops were going home. He collects a group of American POWs from their septic dungeons, cleans them up, and has them mustered on parade to show his guest how well his embattled nation treats its prisoners. Almost all the messages said we had no business writing about Fonda because she was a traitor. We once published an admiring profile of Benedict Arnoldwhose actions did the nation real damage in a way Fondas fulminations never couldand nobody made a peep. However, the allegation that she abused American POWs is not true. According to the email she visited Hanoi in 1968. Libertarian commentator Jedediah Bila appeared on Fox's "Outnumbered" and later turned up on ABC's "The View.". Johnson then ordered 165,000 U.S. forces under General Westmoreland to support a handful of American "advisors" previously ordered there by former President John F. Kennedy, Democrat. The answer, of course, is that they won't. re: Jane Fonda visiting BR this weekend Posted on 3/3/23 at 9:43 am to Chipand2Putts. Others were hoping to catch a glimpse of a famous Hollywood actress. Kellysaid she was among those at Fox News sexually harassed by Ailes. Enjoy the rest of the conversation. Jane Fonda came clean in an interview with Chris Wallace about her Hanoi Jane days and her failure as a mother. The cover called her Ms. I mean, the fact is, there's no statute on treason, by the way. OLIVER NORTH, HOST, "WAR STORIES": Actually, she's not really apologizing. There is certainly no doubt that the country was basically split down the middle on the idea of our military presence in SE Asia, and as Americans we were all free to protest the war to our hearts' content. Jane Fonda was more than just an actress born to a wealthy and prominent Hollywood family. Heres her explanation, from 2011: I had decided to do the broadcasts because I was so horrified by the bombing of civilian targets and I wanted to speak to U.S. pilots as I had done on so many occasions during my visits to U.S. military bases and at G.I. In her book, she says she's a Christian. Mao Tse-Tung, of "Little Red Book" fame, and darling of the New York-Hollywood "elite", then proceeded to murder 65 million of his countrymen in what David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski call "a glorious revolution." For example, she went on Radio Hanoi a number of times, while our troops, your friends, were being shot at by an enemy in Vietnam, saying our POWs were in good health. All Rights Reserved, Copyright MAGA Conservatives. The actual allegation took the form of an email citing the alleged experiences of a number of Viet Nam War veterans at the hands of Jane Fonda. She said: I have very few regrets. As in Korea, communist spies within the U.S. government released vital information to the enemy. The media heaped calumny on U.S. military leadership; presented biased, horrifying scenes depicting "the wanton killing of Vietnamese civilians", and the "degeneracy" of our fighting men and women. HANNITY: Is Jane Fonda really sorry or just trying to sell her brand new book? WebFind many great new & used options and get the best deals for Jane Fonda: Prime Time - Walk Out (DVD, 2010) at the best online prices at eBay! I believe Jane Fonda has talked to at least two historians. They realized that the war was wrong, that we werent wanted there. And that we probably couldnt win it not because they werent a fabulous soldiers. On this weeks edition of HBO Max and CNNs Whos Talking to Chris Wallace, the host covered much of that territory, including that 1972 visit. Here it is. Truman refused. She posed on an anti-aircraft gun used to shoot down our American pilots. . She called our POWs hypocrites and liars and referred to their torture as understandable. As I tell my students when we discuss the proper use of testimony, we probably ought not to listen to Jane Fonda on things dealing with foreign affairs but if our goal is to rid our aging bodies from the ravages of cellulite then Fonda can be considered an authority! Due to the pressure of so-called "rationalists", Article VI, Paragraph 3 of the Constitution forbids Congress from excluding Communists, Anti-Semites, or Globalists from its membership, allowing the control that you decry. His alliance with the Reds made sense, since both upheld elite control of the world. Or to keep it anonymous, click here. Fonda shakes the last hand, then turns to the officer and gives him the fistful of messages. NORTH: These are the things that this woman did, and she has not apologized. For a great many people, its not enough that Jane Fonda went to North Vietnam, offered encouragement to an army that was daily killing her countrymen, climbed up on that anti-aircraft gun, insisted that all American prisoners were well treated, and so on. Putnams Sons. Dave Dr. Rockefeller certainly did not defend Communism as a "Jewish" system, since it is the Hebrew Bible that was the basis of our Common Law, and hence much of our Constitutional Order. ET!. She was a symbol of a divided nation. At that time, over 60,000 American soldiers had lost their lives, and almost one million Vietnamese. She went to tour the countrys dike system, which was rumored to have been intentionally bombed by American forces something the U.S. government to this day forcefully denies. Communism is an atheistic system, and even advocating it is a serious offense in my eyes (with or without war crimes participation). Jane Fonda remains unforgiven. Talking Points, WATCH: Greg Gutfeld and Bill Maher Riff About Incest Porn Because They Are Hilarious Comedians And Hell Exists, Cocaine Bear, Hold My Beer: Production Company Behind Sharknado Releasing Meth Gator Movie This Summer. The chance to remake oneself is a universally acknowledged strength of this Republic, and the Republic itself has done it often enough. Fifty years later, he bears witness again. Each of them suggested that they had done at least one interview with Fonda, and individually they were looking into the historical accuracy behind the claims made about Fonda and why she became such a lighting rod for controversy. but not for the rest of it. False. There was a real Colonel Carrigan, and he was a POW in Vietnam. And it was a terrible mistake because of the image that it showed, which was not at all what the reality was. I mean Alan, this woman was totally caught up in the age of the '60s, the rhetoric of the '60s, and quite frankly I feel sorry for her, because she's not out of it. All rights reserved. For 70 years, American Heritage has been the leading magazine of U.S. history, politics, and culture. The Nixon Justice Department poured over the transcripts of my broadcasts trying to find a way to put me on trial for treason but they could find none. I spent many years its when I made coming home talking to American soldiers, who had been in Vietnam and the things they told me were heartbreaking. Hows this for a story? Shewas active in the Black Panthers and marched for the rights of American Indians, soldiers and working mothers. Oh, my God. But it wasnt untilshe traveled to Hanoi in July 1972 that she really enraged criticsand fundamentally altered how the world viewed her for decades to come. Its more than being a traitor; millions of Americans felt treasonous during that war. And the question I have is 50 years later, how do you look back on that particular chapter? After Fonda returned from hertrip, the State Department spoke out against her. [5]http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp; http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399b.htm; http://www.truthminers.com/truth/hanoi_jane.htm; cited on November 24, 2004. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. North Vietnam, 1972,: Jane Fonda is in the midst of her visit when an N.V.A. Greta Van Susteren -- who had been one of Ailes' most stalwart defenders -- left in early September 2016 after saying that Fox had "not felt like a home" for years. Nobody remembers, nobody cares. She has to be a murderess too. Chiang refused to be extorted, citing his revulsion of the international banking cartel. NORTH: And mine too, brother, even after 37 years. And I didnt even think and they sang me a song and Im made me laugh.
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